Mini GF Son's HS Project

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Mini GF Son's HS Project

Post by Sand Hiller » September 22nd, 2016, 9:25 am

In an earlier thread I was looking for ideas for a project for my son's High School welding class. There was a policy stating "NO SMOKERS". This story has a happy ending or beginning, if you will. I purchased the Mini GF plans and argued my case. Thanks to the detailed plans and the promise of support (it says something when there is a phone number and a name right on the plans!) the build begins. It'll be a slow one...only 1+ hr a day 3 days a week (on a good week!) but I'll try to post pics as he gets going.
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Re: Mini GF Son's HS Project

Post by Tom_Heath » September 22nd, 2016, 6:25 pm

Shoot me a message and I will reply with my number also. That way if they have questions they will have a better chance to talk to one of us. We all have other jobs as well as the plans. So if one of us is busy maybe one won't be.


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Re: Mini GF Son's HS Project

Post by KarateDoc » September 22nd, 2016, 11:31 pm

That is awesome!


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Re: Mini GF Son's HS Project

Post by Squiggle » September 23rd, 2016, 7:12 am

Very cool, can't wait for pics! :beer:


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Re: Mini GF Son's HS Project

Post by Big T » September 23rd, 2016, 9:59 pm

:beer:


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Post by Dirtytires » September 24th, 2016, 1:40 am

You have more support than you know. Congrats on the project....now ask away.



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Re: Mini GF Son's HS Project

Post by Rodcrafter » September 24th, 2016, 1:09 pm

Great project


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Re: Mini GF Son's HS Project

Post by Sand Hiller » September 29th, 2016, 8:16 am

My son is ordering steel this week. I helped him with a rough BOM and came up with approx. 65 ft of square tubing and roughly 50 square feet of 16 ga. Keep in mind this was "dirty math"! Does that sound close?
A more accurate BOM is in the works (unless someone has already has one for a mini...hint hint)
Where did you guys source your insulation?
Probably have alot of questions as we get rolling!


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Re: Mini GF Son's HS Project

Post by Tom_Heath » September 29th, 2016, 7:46 pm

BBQ smoker supply has the insulation. It is the exact same thing that we use at smokerbuilder HQ. back in the day I found some a little closer and a little cheaper but it wasn't worth it. It was a real pain in my tail.


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Re: Mini GF Son's HS Project

Post by Sand Hiller » September 30th, 2016, 8:58 am

Thanks Tom! I was looking at the kit they have with hinges, latches, etc...I take a look at the insulation.


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Re: Mini GF Son's HS Project

Post by Sand Hiller » October 11th, 2016, 1:07 pm

back in the day I found some a little closer and a little cheaper but it wasn't worth it. It was a real pain in my tail.
Tom this is ringing in my head as I have the local lumberyard (smalltown mom and pop...not the big box!) looking for insulation. They found 1.5x24x48 mineral wool with a 1200 deg rating. I realize that the Roxul that SmokerParts has is rated to 2000.
Will this lower rating work?
Not old fashioned or afraid to order....Just trying to keep the local yard open...he's gotten me out of too many pickles!

BTW---have fun in SE KS! was trying to squeeze the trip in but too much goin' on! Next time!


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Re: Mini GF Son's HS Project

Post by Dirtytires » October 12th, 2016, 12:48 am

1200 degree is fine.



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Re: Mini GF Son's HS Project

Post by Sand Hiller » October 12th, 2016, 7:47 am

Thanks DT.
There is a big delta sometimes between what feels good and what is right. Would much rather have the latter!


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Re: Mini GF Son's HS Project

Post by Sand Hiller » October 28th, 2016, 8:12 am

I apologize updates aren't as frequent. Getting a progress report out of a teenage boy other than "yeah...been workin' on it" or "hey, they need more money for steel" is a little tough! PT conferences were this week. Instructor said all the frame is cut and the insulation is going in. Sorry no pics. I put a bug in the instructors ear about that too!
There's a fine line between wanting to know what's going on and not being "one of those" helicopter parents! I'm a firm believer in "you expect what you inspect". Try to explain that to a teenager!


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Post by Rodcrafter » October 28th, 2016, 8:41 am

That is a great report! You must be feeling a little powerless.


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Post by Sand Hiller » October 28th, 2016, 12:39 pm

Just want him to have success with this thing. It is a little hard for me not to physically see progress but If he follows the plans he'll be just fine. I've shared links to the build threads here so he can see examples. I know that helped me build the RF! I'll just keep the money rollin'!
I'm anticipating about $650 out the door. Is that comparable to what the other mini builders have seen?


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Post by Rodcrafter » October 28th, 2016, 12:51 pm

That is cheap for a Gravity Feed smoker. I don't know how much others are spending but a baby stumps is about $4000.00


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Re: Mini GF Son's HS Project

Post by Squiggle » October 28th, 2016, 2:59 pm

I spent about $1200AUD on mine, so about $40USD hahaha(stoopid Aussie dollar!!) =))

Seriously though, about $850USD but stuff here is a bit more expensive than in the US. :kewl:

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Re: Mini GF Son's HS Project

Post by Big T » October 28th, 2016, 5:20 pm

Good to hear that there's progress being made, small steps are better than no steps.


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Re: Mini GF Son's HS Project

Post by Tom_Heath » October 29th, 2016, 8:40 am

The stuff from a local yard rated at 1200 ish is about what I used. The main difference I found was the box store yard product will be more like batt insulation vs a more ridged product that we use. What we use is more like a very dense foam board. It cuts easy with a good knife and holds the cut shape well.


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Re: Mini GF Son's HS Project

Post by Sand Hiller » October 31st, 2016, 8:08 am

Thanks guys. I'll check into cost a little closer. I may just have the first bill for steel.....More to come I bet. Even so not paying for consumables will make a difference.
Tom, The insulation my guy found is solid/dense. Almost looked like a thick suspended ceiling tile (without the finish). I was expecting a bat type like you described. Maybe got lucky? Guess its better to lucky than good! Ha!


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Post by Rodcrafter » November 1st, 2016, 6:49 am

Yes more often than not


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Post by Tom_Heath » November 1st, 2016, 10:37 am

Sounds like you got the good stuff. That's awesome.


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Re: Mini GF Son's HS Project

Post by Dirtytires » November 1st, 2016, 11:29 pm

If you come anywhere close to $400 I'd put it into production! Don't forget you will tack on another hundred for a few temp gauges and a bit more for sandblast and paint. Still, great budget.



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Re: Mini GF Son's HS Project

Post by Sand Hiller » June 1st, 2017, 8:04 am

My son and I have his Mini home from school. From what I saw when we went to pick it up it was one of the more complex projects. I'm proud of what he did as a first time welder! There's a few details left to finish but it'll be smoking soon!
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