Miller 212 vs Hobart 230 Ironman?

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Miller 212 vs Hobart 230 Ironman?

Post by TSQ » February 2nd, 2016, 12:15 am

Ready to pull the trigger on one of these two machines, mostly for welding bbq related stuff and pipe bbq smokers and grills, not likely to weld much more than 1/4 very often.
Hobart $1599 + taxes
Miller $1875.00 NO taxes
so cost to my door will be very close
Seem to remember a while back that Miller owns/ makes the Hobarts, are they the same welders basically?
Seems the Miller is a little more advanced and has more technology behind it (or potetial problems)
Either brand has no service in my area if warranty problems arise, both have to be boxed up and sent to another town.

Any help or suggestions and insight appreciated.

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Re: Miller 212 vs Hobart 230 Ironman?

Post by TSQ » February 2nd, 2016, 10:45 pm

Wow nobody has any experience or ideas on these two?



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Re: Miller 212 vs Hobart 230 Ironman?

Post by mp4 » February 3rd, 2016, 7:06 am

I don't personally. I did some looking yesterday on some of the welding boards and it seemed most leaned towards the Hobart stating it had a higher duty cycle. I would have thought they would have liked the infinite voltage setting over the Hobart tapped selector but they didn't. I think somewhere they said the hobart welded better on thin metal too, but that didn't make much sense to me. I did see a few comment that for the price difference they would buy a Miller 252 which is far superior to both. I acquired a 250 (an older version of the 252) and like it better than my old Hobart Betamig 250.



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Re: Miller 212 vs Hobart 230 Ironman?

Post by TSQ » February 3rd, 2016, 9:27 am

Thanks for the reply mp4, had done a little looking around too but just can't find much about the 212, seem to remember reading or hearing somewhere (welding store) that the 212 was being discontinued or maybe it was the 211, just don't remember where I heard it. Agree the 252 is a much better option but was trying to stay under 2G or no more including bottle,wire, ect. Have not read anything bad about the Hobart, other than the "tapped" comments.
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Re: Miller 212 vs Hobart 230 Ironman?

Post by Sr guy » February 27th, 2016, 10:08 am

I have ran both. Miller 252 very nice. I own a Hobart 230 no issues and I have welded 1/2 with no problems. Been running it for three years as a side business and the Miller 252 is on the wish list but my 4x8 plasma table came first. Hard to justify that Miller when I do fine with the Hobart



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Re: Miller 212 vs Hobart 230 Ironman?

Post by TSQ » March 9th, 2016, 9:14 am

I do agree so went with the Hobart a couple weeks back, haven't fired it yet for lack of time. There are no service centers within 3-400 miles here so any warranty issues will involve shipping and long wait times. I just felt less electronics for now is a less likely problem for now. Thanks for the reply's



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Re: Miller 212 vs Hobart 230 Ironman?

Post by mp4 » March 9th, 2016, 10:53 am

Cool - Let us know how it work!



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