Cutting out the door

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Cutting out the door

Post by TSied » February 8th, 2019, 3:05 pm

So I'm getting ready to cut out my cook chamber door on a piece of 24" diameter pipe that will be 44" long. Here is my question. What is the best positioning of the door? I was going to go 1" past 3:00 for the bottom food grate but what about the top? Is it best to cut it right at the 12:00 position or an inch or so to the front or back of 12:00? Also how about the sides? Does it matter how close to the end of the pipe it is or should you keep the cut a few inches from the ends?



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Cutting out the door

Post by McBroom » February 8th, 2019, 3:17 pm

1.5-2” past 12:00 is what I would do
If you only go to 12:00 rain water can get in easier.

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Post by TSied » February 8th, 2019, 3:39 pm

This is kind of where I was leaning also. Then I was going to come in 2" from both sides.



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Post by McBroom » February 8th, 2019, 3:47 pm

That’s about right. How many doors?
You could make the c/c doors about 4” below 3:00. That might even give you enough room for another cooking rack

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Post by TSied » February 8th, 2019, 3:52 pm

doing one but my guess is I'll need a counterweight when its said and done. I'm kind of already planning on that being the case, I would like to put 2 food grates in though. So you think going a few more inches past 3:00 if i'm doing 2 grates?



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Post by McBroom » February 8th, 2019, 7:08 pm

Yes ya can get 2 grates in it and I think that maybe you should think about 2 doors. JMHO a single 40” door wit seal and rim can be really heavy.
BTW how thick is the pipe?


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Post by TSied » February 8th, 2019, 7:38 pm

its 3/8" pipe so the door will be in the ballpark of 75-80 pounds.



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Post by McBroom » February 8th, 2019, 7:44 pm

If ya make 2 doors it’ll be a lot easier on the body to open. Put a 2.5” space between the two and that’ll be plenty of room for the rim. Another thing to think about is the counter weight would not be needed if you make a door stop on top of the c/c. A med size triangle welded on top it would only take 2 per door


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Re: Cutting out the door

Post by Dirtytires » February 8th, 2019, 11:23 pm

A 44 inch long pipe only gives you about a 38 inch opening. If you decide to put 2 doors on it, you end up with only about a 16 inch opening which is not ideal in my opinion. Make one door and add a counterweight. You need minimum of 4-6 inches on each end. The gap is on one side and the chiminey on the other side and you don’t want the chiminey over the food racks.

Standard is to cut opening 1 inch below 3 o’clock and put bottom rack 1 inch above that.



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Post by McBroom » February 9th, 2019, 2:32 am

Thanks DT


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Re: Cutting out the door

Post by Smurf » February 9th, 2019, 10:30 am

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On my first smoker I put 2 doors. After using it several times I wish I had gone with 1. With the right counter weight setup I think you should be fine. Pic for reference
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Re: Cutting out the door

Post by TSied » February 9th, 2019, 4:20 pm

Thanks guys. I got it cut out today. It only very very slightly sprung. Maybe 1/16th of an inch, so not to bad.

Side note as far as the actual cutting I used a diablo steel demon 7 1/4" circular saw blade. I've never really seen them mentioned around here but I will tell you that I was absolutely shocked at how well it worked. I made a cut maybe 3-4" long through the pipe with an angle grinder and then used the circular saw for the rest of the cut because doing a plunge cut with the circular saw is a bit dicy. It would cut the entire length of the pipe in maybe a minute tops and with a perfectly smooth edge too. Plus the metal doesn't even get hot at all. I was honestly amazed. Just throwing that out there to all the others that don't have a plasma cutter in their garage. I'm sure the blade is basically toast at this point but it served its purpose for what I wanted.



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Re: Cutting out the door

Post by McBroom » February 9th, 2019, 4:54 pm

At Harbor Freight they have a 7 1/4 circular saw blade made for cutting steel. I’ve been thinking about getting one just to see how it cuts. No sparks and a smooth edge is nice as well as no getting hot.


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Re: Cutting out the door

Post by TSied » February 9th, 2019, 7:22 pm

yeah same thing i think, this is just the name brand one from home depot. It was $30 but like I said, it took me tops 30 minutes to cut the entire door out counting the whole process. Actual cutting time was maybe 5 minutes. There are some sparks but not nearly as much as you'd think. Plus the metal doesn't heat up at all, and not really any grinder work to smooth out the edges or anything. It was well worth it.



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Post by McBroom » February 9th, 2019, 8:01 pm

I’m gonna get one! You have convinced me. My wife is a manager at HFT so I get a hell of a discount. I was actually worried that this blade would melt the blade guard and that’s why I haven’t bought one yet.


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