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Big Wheel Cart ideas/plans

Post by Saskattak » November 7th, 2020, 10:52 am

Good day. Not sure if this is the right spot for this question. I am building a 24x48 RF and want to put it on a cart with wide atv tires. Inhave added a pic as an example (random uild from google images). Would anyone know where some resources are to build this thing. The smoker will be close to 1000lbs and I dont want to cheap out on materials/design. Goal is to be able to move it around my yard mostly. Odd time get it in a truck/trailer via ramps.

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Post by hogaboomer » November 7th, 2020, 12:18 pm

I put golf cart tires on my big backyard smoker, too. But, it's not near as fancy as that one is. I made my hubs out of 1.5 inch pipe that slides into 2 inch sched 80. I imagine he used manufactured hubs and spindles for that one. They use a hub for the front axle pivot, too. Mine is the same pipe in a pipe setup. I'm a cheapskate. Maybe one day I'll get that good.
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Post by hogaboomer » November 7th, 2020, 12:36 pm

I looked at his FB page, that guy does some really nice work. I'm jealous. :D


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Post by Saskattak » November 7th, 2020, 12:43 pm

Your cart style is more what I am after. The high detail is nice but I would rather use that extra time to cook with this thing. No plans on selling it either. What did you use to attach to the smoker and the steering?

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Post by hogaboomer » November 7th, 2020, 5:06 pm

I put a 1-1/2 inch pipe about 8 inches long on the bottom of the smoker, and I welded a 2 inch schedule 80 pipe on the axle to slide over it. It works really nicely. There's just enough clearance to turn freely and not be sloppy and wiggly. I did the same thing for the wheels. I also welded a stopper on the axle and steering pipe so it couldn't fall out if I hit a big bump, but it can still be taken apart by turning the axle past 90 degrees.
I'll go out and take some pics for you.
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Those wheel hubs would have been a lot easier and faster to do if I had a lathe. It was a lot of work doing it with a grinder.


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Post by tinspark » November 8th, 2020, 5:54 pm

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November 7th, 2020, 5:06 pm
I put a 1-1/2 inch pipe about 8 inches long on the bottom of the smoker, and I welded a 2 inch schedule 80 pipe on the axle to slide over it. It works really nicely. There's just enough clearance to turn freely and not be sloppy and wiggly. I did the same thing for the wheels. I also welded a stopper on the axle and steering pipe so it couldn't fall out if I hit a big bump, but it can still be taken apart by turning the axle past 90 degrees.
I'll go out and take some pics for you.
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Those wheel hubs would have been a lot easier and faster to do if I had a lathe. It was a lot of work doing it with a grinder.
Great Ideas on the steering assembly!
simple but well designed!
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Post by hogaboomer » November 8th, 2020, 6:24 pm

Thanks! Honestly, I was surprised at how well it works. I was afraid it might be tippy in a turn, but it stays rock solid no matter how much I turn the axle.
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Post by Saskattak » November 8th, 2020, 8:55 pm

Thanks for the info and photos. I think I would need to add some grease points due to my climate, the steel on steel will eventually sieze ungreased. I will need to make my own hubs as well. I have landed some stock ATV wheels recently, hopefully pick them up this week.

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Post by tinspark » November 8th, 2020, 10:56 pm

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I think I would need to add some grease points due to my climate, the steel on steel will eventually sieze ungreased.





R U just planning on drilling and tapping the small 1/4”/20 style grease zerks? Pretty effective way to keep the pipe in pipe lubricated and free from seizing?


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Post by dacolson » November 9th, 2020, 7:48 pm

Great ideas. Saskattak - we could swap the front wheels for snow machine skis. I think I could work out how to mount my current build on the old ' 68 Ski-Doo up at the shack.
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Post by Saskattak » November 9th, 2020, 8:18 pm

dacolson wrote:Great ideas. Saskattak - we could swap the front wheels for snow machine skis. I think I could work out how to mount my current build on the old ' 68 Ski-Doo up at the shack.
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That would be epic. Hearing 1an old one lunger sled and see a guy sitting on a smoker putting across the snow.

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Post by dacolson » November 9th, 2020, 10:22 pm

Saskattak wrote:
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dacolson wrote:Great ideas. Saskattak - we could swap the front wheels for snow machine skis. I think I could work out how to mount my current build on the old ' 68 Ski-Doo up at the shack.

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That would be epic. Hearing 1an old one lunger sled and see a guy sitting on a smoker putting across the snow.

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Post by Saskattak » November 10th, 2020, 4:01 pm

hogaboomer wrote:Thanks! Honestly, I was surprised at how well it works. I was afraid it might be tippy in a turn, but it stays rock solid no matter how much I turn the axle.
Hello. Would you be able to provide more overall photos of yoir smoker/cart? Im trying to determine wheel placements but have a maximum width of 44" (so it will gwt in/out of my backyard). Worried about the tires being too close to the firebox.

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Post by hogaboomer » November 10th, 2020, 6:46 pm

I cut a couple pieces of thin plywood to slip in between the tires and firebox. I guess I could weld a plate in there for heat deflection, but I'm getting lazy in my old age.

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Post by hogaboomer » November 10th, 2020, 7:03 pm

I just went out and measured, mine is 45" wide, but there is 2 inches of clearance. The plywood works fine.
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Post by Saskattak » November 10th, 2020, 8:07 pm

Thank you muchly!!! Love that build snd the continuing mos to it. And the linseed oil...that acts a clear coat on steel? Never heard of that! At this point I am not wasting my time painting. Need to get it built and dialed. Paint can come later...i know ppl who sandblast and paint things for a living so it can be done whenever.

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Post by hogaboomer » November 10th, 2020, 8:19 pm

The linseed oil works pretty good at stopping rust. I've not had any rust pop up on the parts that I oiled. A lot of people down here put it on the underside of their vehicles to keep down rust from driving on the beach around the salt water.


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Post by Saskattak » November 10th, 2020, 8:54 pm

hogaboomer wrote:The linseed oil works pretty good at stopping rust. I've not had any rust pop up on the parts that I oiled. A lot of people down here put it on the underside of their vehicles to keep down rust from driving on the beach around the salt water.
Interesting. I am smack dad in the middle of the prairies so bad rust isnt a thing. However any bare iron based steel will rust exposed to moisture so be great to oil it right after I finish fabbing indoors.

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Post by Saskattak » January 2nd, 2021, 11:32 am

Thought I would add my cart to this thread in case others where looking the thread for ideas. Feel free to ask any questions you may have.

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Post by dacolson » January 2nd, 2021, 1:11 pm

You almost have to put a little 5hp go cart motor on there with a slip clutch. Seems a shame not to have one.


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Post by Saskattak » January 2nd, 2021, 1:50 pm

dacolson wrote:You almost have to put a little 5hp go cart motor on there with a slip clutch. Seems a shame not to have one.
Its in the jar of ideas. I have a HD mechanic buddy and a millwright buddy all over me for that lol. Thankful as their experience will ensure it works smoothly.

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Post by hogaboomer » January 2nd, 2021, 5:41 pm

That thing is sick!!! Nice job!


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Post by Saskattak » January 2nd, 2021, 5:45 pm

hogaboomer wrote:That thing is sick!!! Nice job!
Thanks! You were kind enough to kickstart my imagination! So, thank you.

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